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发表于 2026-11-7 11:58 | 显示全部楼层
ZaZ 发表于 2026-11-7 01:00
I have a potential new best with Autumn 0.10. Can someone test it for me and tell me how it feels co ...

I’ll give it a try
发表于 2026-11-7 12:20 | 显示全部楼层
I’ve had a question that’s been bugging me for quite a while. When going up against weaker sides known for counter-attacking football, should I still stick with a high press? Won’t that play right into their hands and let them hit you on the break even more effectively?

If that’s the case, should I prepare a second, possession-based tactic as a backup? But this leads to a second concern: will switching back and forth between two tactics tank tactical familiarity and end up making my team perform worse overall?
发表于 2026-11-7 14:19 | 显示全部楼层
ZaZ 发表于 2026-11-6 20:47
I do not know how to multi-quote, so here I go:

1. Yes, I test my tactics in four teams predicted ...

I loaded your first tactic patch, and all instructions under In Possession and Out of Possession are Balanced, no adjustments.
发表于 2026-11-7 16:19 | 显示全部楼层
this one is great.That said, wouldn’t it be safer to assign the **"Dribble Less"** player instruction to all three centre-backs?

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发表于 2026-11-7 17:12 | 显示全部楼层
THANKS.
0.3version really good~
 楼主| 发表于 2026-11-7 17:17 | 显示全部楼层
Hi ZAZ, welcome to the forum! Once you've updated your tactic, you can use this button to edit your opening post (OP) again and keep the updated tactic at the top of the thread — because if you post the update further down, it gets buried as the discussion grows, and people won't easily spot your new tactic.(Note: this message was translated by AI — hope it's understandable.)

Done! Thank you for the tip.
hi guru.Is this training schedule supposed to be run in order from 1 to 4 in rotation?

Hi! Yes, but I should be creating a new schedules later today.
 楼主| 发表于 2026-11-7 17:22 | 显示全部楼层
What's the logic behind inside forwards sticking close to the wingers? Aren't they usually dribbling inside and cutting the ball?

Receiving the ball closer to the edge gives you more space to progress through dribbling using your speed.
woqu,are you the real zaz?

I hope so!
But I’ve seen the official in-game diagram for Trap Outside shows the team spreading wider. Could this reduce central congestion and actually help the opposition build up through the middle?

Trap outside basically brings your players closer to the middle when defending, which reduces space by the middle and increases by the flanks, which drive opponents to play through the sides.
 楼主| 发表于 2026-11-7 17:27 | 显示全部楼层
I’ve had a question that’s been bugging me for quite a while. When going up against weaker sides known for counter-attacking football, should I still stick with a high press? Won’t that play right into their hands and let them hit you on the break even more effectively?

If that’s the case, should I prepare a second, possession-based tactic as a backup? But this leads to a second concern: will switching back and forth between two tactics tank tactical familiarity and end up making my team perform worse overall?

Some tactics are better against a certain styles and formations. I believe people will be testing those things a lot using the new tools available, and that might increase the variety of tactics we see in multiplayer.
I loaded your first tactic patch, and all instructions under In Possession and Out of Possession are Balanced, no adjustments.

That is odd. It works fine here, so I cannot help much when I cannot reproduce the problem.
this one is great.That said, wouldn’t it be safer to assign the **"Dribble Less"** player instruction to all three centre-backs?

Maybe, but I did not test it yet to know.
THANKS.
0.3version really good~

Thank you for testing! Try 0.11 if possible, it performs better in my tests.
发表于 2026-11-7 20:40 | 显示全部楼层
Hi ZaZ! Thanks a lot for your share!
What's the differences between training1-4 and how to choose one?
Thanks again!
发表于 2026-11-7 21:26 | 显示全部楼层
似乎,在AI和助手的加持下,

逆向工程破解FM游戏模拟引擎的结局很快就会到来。
发表于 2026-11-7 21:45 | 显示全部楼层
一进来就有0.11,好好好
发表于 2026-11-7 21:46 | 显示全部楼层
0.11很不错,踢了几场,锋线三人都有很好的发挥
 楼主| 发表于 2026-11-7 23:39 | 显示全部楼层
Hi ZaZ! Thanks a lot for your share!
What's the differences between training1-4 and how to choose one?
Thanks again!

I just added new training schedules to the first post with explanations.
It seems that, with the help of AI and assistants, the end of the reverse engineering and cracking of the FM game simulation engine is fast approaching.

Maybe. I have seen some people accessing the match engine directly to run matches instantly without playing the game, which will allow automatization that will be hard to beat. While I can run 500 or 1000 matches a day, someone will be using a script to run 100 thousand per hour, so there is a high chance the best tactic will come from an algorithm (not necessarily AI) instead of a human. However, brute forcing is probably still unfeasible, so human input will be needed to guide those algorithms in the right direction. There are many factors that affect the quality of an optimization algorithm, and if the system is not set properly, it will never find the best solutions at all.
0.11 is quite good; after several matches, all three forwards have performed very well.

Thank you! Glad to see it working.
发表于 2026-11-8 06:16 | 显示全部楼层
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球员训练的过程也是我“训练”的过程,感谢zaz的分享,我还需学习
 楼主| 发表于 2026-11-8 08:39 | 显示全部楼层
The players' training process was also my "training" process. Thanks to Zaz for sharing; I still have much to learn.

Thank you!

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I have one (untested) theory that, in this patch, we need at least one DM fixed in place (without moving up to CM in possession or coming from CB) to be able to protect properly from counter attacks. In short, I believe tactics like 2x CHM-DM or with DM-CB are not as effective as doing 2x BBM-DM, BBM-DM + AM-DM or keeping a DM-DM instead of DM-CB.

As I said, this is not tested throughly, but I can see this pattern in a few of my tests, and I can see the vulnerable space in front of defenders while watching the matches.

If someone has one of those patterns, can you please change and see if your tactic improve? In other words, have at least one DM fixed in place instead of going up or down during transition.
发表于 2026-11-8 10:02 | 显示全部楼层
Take a look at my screenshots. I’m using the tactic you shared — it’s been incredible, thank you so much. It’s turned my side from relegation battlers into proper title contenders.

It was originally a three-at-the-back system, but I only have two centre-backs available right now due to injuries and suspensions, so I’ve had to repurpose a defensive midfielder to cover. You can see his in-possession and out-of-possession duties clearly in the images. Defensively, this deep-sitting DM stays back the entire time and picks up the opposition’s centre-forward.

The defensive performance is no different from a full three-CB setup — it’s still rock solid. That said, I haven’t controlled for two variables here: player ability gaps and tactical familiarity.
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发表于 2026-11-8 12:20 | 显示全部楼层
大佬,请收下我的膝盖
 楼主| 发表于 2026-11-8 14:41 | 显示全部楼层
Take a look at my screenshots. I’m using the tactic you shared — it’s been incredible, thank you so much. It’s turned my side from relegation battlers into proper title contenders.

It was originally a three-at-the-back system, but I only have two centre-backs available right now due to injuries and suspensions, so I’ve had to repurpose a defensive midfielder to cover. You can see his in-possession and out-of-possession duties clearly in the images. Defensively, this deep-sitting DM stays back the entire time and picks up the opposition’s centre-forward.

The defensive performance is no different from a full three-CB setup — it’s still rock solid. That said, I haven’t controlled for two variables here: player ability gaps and tactical familiarity.

Speaking of three CB setup, maybe OCB is not be performing as well as last year, so I should try three BCBs in the back again. That could fix a bit of the inconsistency of the back, using the same line of thought of DMs being out of position, with OCBs being often out of position to defend. I will test it out tomorrow.
发表于 2026-11-8 18:08 | 显示全部楼层
ZaZ thank you for your hard work and time.
For several years now, whenever I’ve been struggling, I’ve turned to your tactics. They’re always among the best, making the game a pleasure to play.
At the same time, I’ve gradually come to understand why they’re set up that way—which taught me a lot back when I was just starting out.
That said, FM27 has definitely gotten harder, But whenever I see you post about tactics, it makes me really happy.
发表于 2026-11-8 18:12 | 显示全部楼层
why use two attacking ball work,not one attacking ball work and one defensive ball work
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